
by Craig Ablitt
We’re coming towards the end of 2007. How’s it been for you?
Good thanks. It went quickly and successfully and I don’t think we could have hoped for better.
You have a massive UK tour that’s going to round things off. What can people expect from these big arena dates?
It’s kind of like us signing off for the year so we want to do it in style. We’ve got a new stage set designed and we’re going to try and play some new songs. It’s important to do that because when you get to the level that we’re at; playing to 20 000 in a room reminds people of who you are and how fresh you can still be.
You cancelled the U.S tour. Didn’t you want to capitalize on the success you’ve had out there?
Kind of. We just had so much stuff booked that was impossible to stick to and something had to give. If we had gaps in the calendar it would have happened. It’s unfortunate because we want to capitalize on everywhere we go, it’s never nice to miss gigs after they’ve been announced.
Will it be weird playing these huge halls?
It’ll be different definitely. When we go onstage at the MEN Arena it’s gonna be manic and we’re not sure what’ll happen, but it’ll be good. Sometimes when you go abroad it can be more exciting because you don’t know what to expect. Fortunately for us, the majority of the time it’s great and people get properly excited. We went to Mexico for the first time and people were waiting outside for us at the gig and there was even bootleg merchandise of ours outside and when I went to go and have a look I just got surrounded by all these kids – I just couldn’t move! It’s nice to be coming home to the UK though.
How does it feel being in the public spotlight do much?
It’s become normal. It’s great when it starts to happen and when people from Leeds say how proud there are of us and good for Leeds and all that, which is nice to hear from people of your own town. Generally it comes with the territory and you can’t be baffled by it. You just get on with it
Good thanks. It went quickly and successfully and I don’t think we could have hoped for better.
You have a massive UK tour that’s going to round things off. What can people expect from these big arena dates?
It’s kind of like us signing off for the year so we want to do it in style. We’ve got a new stage set designed and we’re going to try and play some new songs. It’s important to do that because when you get to the level that we’re at; playing to 20 000 in a room reminds people of who you are and how fresh you can still be.
You cancelled the U.S tour. Didn’t you want to capitalize on the success you’ve had out there?
Kind of. We just had so much stuff booked that was impossible to stick to and something had to give. If we had gaps in the calendar it would have happened. It’s unfortunate because we want to capitalize on everywhere we go, it’s never nice to miss gigs after they’ve been announced.
Will it be weird playing these huge halls?
It’ll be different definitely. When we go onstage at the MEN Arena it’s gonna be manic and we’re not sure what’ll happen, but it’ll be good. Sometimes when you go abroad it can be more exciting because you don’t know what to expect. Fortunately for us, the majority of the time it’s great and people get properly excited. We went to Mexico for the first time and people were waiting outside for us at the gig and there was even bootleg merchandise of ours outside and when I went to go and have a look I just got surrounded by all these kids – I just couldn’t move! It’s nice to be coming home to the UK though.
How does it feel being in the public spotlight do much?
It’s become normal. It’s great when it starts to happen and when people from Leeds say how proud there are of us and good for Leeds and all that, which is nice to hear from people of your own town. Generally it comes with the territory and you can’t be baffled by it. You just get on with it

You can’t make yourself go away. We could go away for two years and come back, but we don’t want to fall into that trap and system. We are on to the third lot of writing we have done now and might not use it for an album. We could do a small release. We like doing the more interesting and fun things you can do when you’re in a big band. Next year should be a year of us having fun. Little creative things.
Will the new material be of the same melodic, upbeat nature we have enjoyed so far?
I think that’s something we’ll always do because we can’t get away from that you know? That’s how we write songs – doing them so they get in people’s heads after one listen. That’s something we shouldn’t try and get away from. There’s pop records, but also there is this indie sort of rock thing that doesn’t go hand in hand with melody and tunefulness, but we have a good balance between the two. It’ll never leave us and we are going to keep having fun with the music we do. Let’s see where it takes us rather than force it into a place where it doesn’t want to go.
Would you ever go down this Radiohead route of giving it away?
Obviously Radiohead are a successful band with millions of fans so they can afford to do that and know a lot of people will buy the record this way anyway. I went online and bought the box set thing for forty quid where you get the download for free, which is good. I’d love to know what the average price people had paid for it – I’d love Radiohead to do that. I think it’s a good thing and I think that sensible people on the whole will pay the right amount they normally pay for a CD. You will get some people who will only pay 50p for it or something, but on the whole I reckon there’ll be a good average price paid for it. It’s a clever experiment and there’ll be repercussions that haven’t happened yet, certainly.
How has this new material come about then? Was it written on the road?
We don’t write on the road too much. Nick is main songwriter and in his hotel he has a guitar and he’ll stockpile ideas. When we come to write as a band we need to be back in our rehearsal room in Leeds, which is why we were keen in October to do that. In there we turn Nick’s ideas into proper songs. On the road it’s difficult. You get soundchecks and stuff, but these days there is like 40 people around you, so it’s not like a small soundcheck.
So was the new album the ‘difficult second album’ or was it easy in the end?
We were a band before Kaiser Chiefs and made an album that wasn’t released. We viewed Employment as our difficult second album where we really had to pull out the stops and not everyone knew that, but we did. By now, this is really our third album. Employment was the make or break album. It was like the second bite of the apple and you don’t normally get a second chance in this industry. That’s why Employment was great and sold millions of copies, but on this one we’d found our style and found our purpose. We put pressure on ourselves and didn’t get any from elsewhere and I think that’s the best sort of pressure to have.
What was up with the Parva stuff then?
We didn’t have an identity. They say you learn from your mistakes before. When we cut it with Kaiser Chiefs, we’d made our mistakes already. It was a mish mash of styles and didn’t connect. Nick s songwriting got better and better as time went on and we’re stricter too these days too and will ditch tracks we’re not too precious over.
You must have seen a lot of bands disappear after one record in your time?
That is exactly it. Now you have things like MySpace and that – people only need one really good song and if it is good enough it will get round and what can happen is that they get signed too early. A single can come out be a hit etc, then it’s followed by an album, sells 5000 copies, they get dropped and are never heard of again and that’s their career over. You think about bands like U2 – they didn’t get successful until their third album on Island records. Nobody seems to put the time and the effort into developing bands. People are starting to now, because they realize that they have destroyed some of these bands and put them out before they were ready, but now there are labels out there trying to develop bands.

Yeah, you still need the same confidence and as a small show, you just learn how to project your songs in a stadium with the sound you have and we did. We saw The Edge at some awards ceremony recently and he said: “You guys were really great on tour,” and Bono said to us earlier in the night: “You either get that stadium buzz or you don’t. You either rise to it and you’re hungry for it or it won’t happen.” We gave it our all and felt it worked and did what we needed to. Now with our own big tour we feel totally ready for it.
People say arena gigs are soulless and too big. How will you combat that?
I think from day one we have been a more energetic and engaging band than a lot of others out there. We’ve been to big gigs where the size of the venue has detracted from the quality of the band. We want people to concentrate on the band and not the screen. We have bits and pieces of stage props, but we still get people involved at our level. It’s not a DVD playback where you watch the screen all night.
Is it ever difficult touring with the same people for months on end?
Yeah, we have little arguments and little fall outs, but the good days far outweigh the good days in this band. We have a great crew and a great family and there’s no nob heads. We’re looking forward about all getting out and doing it together – a family away from home and we always have a good tour.
How do you keep entertained with all the travelling?
By watching UK comedies I reckon. Partridge, Blackadder, Fawlty Towers; that sort of stuff.
Tell us about your support bands for the tour?
We Are Scientists came with us on the Employment tour and are good lads to be around. They have this British sort of humor and they are also a great band. We have Pigeon Detective and The Cribs in various cities. I don’t think anyone needs telling why they are great bands.
What did you make about Ryan Jarman’s anti-indie scene comments?
We are really good friends with The Cribs and have always championed them. They’ve been around longer than us and I think they are doing good and I think they are doing alright. I like them because they have very solid values and literally say what they mean with things they feel strongly about. If something’s shit and they think it’s shit they’ll say ‘that’s shit!’ They’ll say that in the press on TV and whatever and I really admire that sort of commitment. I know Ryan is a top guy and he’d never try and offend anyone, but if he doesn’t like something he’ll let you know and we love that in him.
What’s your favorite song to play live?
To play live? Oh My God, which we play at the end of the set was one of the first songs we wrote and its still one of the weirdest ones we’ve done in terms of arrangements and reminds me of Pink Floyd-esque sounds and it’s a monster song.